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Sarah Longwell and Bill Kristol: We're Governed by Broken Men

Hosts discuss the character of current US leadership, escalating international conflicts, and domestic political dynamics.

The episode features Sarah Longwell and Bill Kristol discussing the perceived lack of core values in male US leaders, including Trump's alignment with controversial figures and the escalation of the war with Iran.

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52 minJul 20, 2026The Bulwark Podcast

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Critique of Male Leadership

The hosts characterize current US leaders as men lacking a center or core, citing examples of Trump, Stephen Miller, and Pete Hegseth.

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Escalation with Iran

The discussion highlights the dangerous escalation of the war between Iran and the U.S.

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Trump and the Tate Brothers

The arrest of the Tate brothers in Miami is presented as an opportunity for Trump to extend his record of supporting sex pests and assaulters.

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Domestic Political Shifts

The episode covers Maine Democrats finding a replacement for Platner and polling suggesting voters are not necessarily gravitating toward Democrats, potentially due to the DSA.

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How does the characterization of US leaders as 'broken men' influence policy decisions?

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What are the implications of the escalating war between Iran and the U.S.?

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How does the DSA impact voter gravitation toward Democrats?

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Context

Leadership and Conflict

The conversation addresses the behavior of key political figures, including Trump's attempts to claim valor, Miller's encouragement of ICE violence, and Hegseth's push for macho bullying among soldiers.

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Questions

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Who are the hosts of this episode?

Bill Kristol and special guest host Sarah Longwell.

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What is the nature of the conflict with Iran?

Iran and the U.S. are described as dangerously escalating the war.

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How does the episode characterize Trump's stance on the Tate brothers?

It suggests Trump uses their arrest to extend his record of standing by sex pests and assaulters.

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What is the status of Maine Democrats regarding Platner?

Maine Democrats have a replacement for Platner.

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Experts

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Sarah Longwell

Special Guest Host

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Bill Kristol

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  1. Publisher show notes

    Trump tried to steal the limelight and the valor of Spain at the World Cup, even as more troops died overseas; Stephen Miller regularly encourages ICE to be violent while Pete Hegseth pushes soldiers to be macho bullies.

  2. Publisher show notes

    The leaders in this country are men with no center and no core.

  3. Publisher show notes

    Now with the arrest of the Tate brothers in Miami, Trump gets a chance to extend his record of standing by sex pests and assaulters.

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    Plus: Iran and the U.S. are dangerously escalating the war, ICE is going even more rogue, Maine Dems have a replacement for Platner, and generic ballot polling suggests voters aren't necessarily gravitating to Democrats—and the noisy DSA may have a lot to do with that.

  5. Publisher show notes

    Bill Kristol joins special guest host Sarah Longwell.

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    Show notes:

  7. Publisher show notes

    • Monday's "Morning Shots" • Sam and Mark Hertling on the Iran strikes on an air base in Jordan • Umberto Eco's "Ur-Fascism" piece • Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% Off @Ridge with code THEBULWARK at https://www.Ridge.com/THEBULWARK #Ridgepod

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