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Clint Smith: Make America What It Set Out to Be

Clint Smith discusses the complexities of American history, challenges for Black military members, and the aspiration for a multiracial democracy.

The episode explores the aspiration of America as a multiracial, multiethnic, multi-faith democracy, acknowledging the contradictions and complexities of its history while addressing current challenges for Black military members.

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68 minJul 3, 2026The Bulwark Podcast

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Complexity of American History

The administration promotes a narrow story of the country, ignoring the contradictions and complexities of its history.

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Challenges for Black Military Members

Black members of the military face challenges under Hegseth, including disregarded service, blocked promotions, and expungements from the ranks.

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Aspiration for Democracy

The aspiration of America as a multiracial, multiethnic, multi-faith democracy is considered a noble goal that requires continued effort.

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How does the narrow story of the country affect public understanding of history?

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What specific actions has Hegseth taken regarding Black military members?

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How can individuals contribute to building a multiracial, multiethnic, multi-faith democracy?

Background reading

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Context

America 250

It is difficult to maintain a celebratory mood regarding America's 250th anniversary given current political and social climates.

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Questions

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What is the administration's approach to telling the story of the country?

The administration only wants to tell a narrow story of the country without all the contradictions and complexities of its history.

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What challenges are Black members of the military facing?

Black members of the military face challenges under Hegseth, including disregarded service, blocked promotions, and expungements from the ranks.

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What is the aspiration for America's democracy?

The aspiration of America as a multiracial, multiethnic, multi-faith democracy is a noble one, and our job is to keep trying to build the country we want it to be.

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Clint Smith

The Atlantic's Clint Smith

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Sources and disclosure

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This episode features discussions on the Smithsonian, advice for talking to kids about history, and July 4th cookout joys. A full Bulwark membership is offered for $86 a year.

  1. Publisher show notes

    It's hard to be in a celebratory mood about America 250.

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    The administration only wants to tell a narrow story of the country without all the contradictions and complexities of its history.

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    And for the past 18 months, it has also been a particularly challenging time for black members of the military under Hegseth, who brazenly disregards their service, blocks promotions of black officers, or expunges them from the ranks.

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    But the aspiration of America as a multiracial, multiethnic, multi-faith democracy is a noble one, and our job is to keep trying to build the country we want it to be.

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    Plus: the man who's trying to stop the magafication of the Smithsonian, advice for how to talk to kids about the country's history, and the simple joys of a July 4th cookout.

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    The Atlantic's Clint Smith joins Tim Miller for the holiday weekend pod.

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  8. Publisher show notes

    • Clint’s piece on being black in Hegseth’s military • Clint on the man who’s put himself between Trump and the Smithsonian • Clint's "How the Word Is Passed" • Thursday’s “Morning Shots” on the words of Gerald Ford • Tim’s July 4th playlist • This week only, a full Bulwark membership for everything we offer on our website is $86 a year.

  9. Publisher show notes

    That's 14 percent off at http://thebulwark.com/july4

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