The Bulwark Podcast

Ben Wittes: Talk About America in Decline

Ben Wittes joins Tim Miller to discuss Trump's NATO summit logistics, FBI resource allocation, military waste in Iran, and the geopolitical impact of Ukraine on Russia.

The episode covers Trump's use of two Air Force Ones at the NATO summit in Turkey, Kash Patel's management of FBI resources, military waste in Iran, and Ukraine's effect on Russian panic.

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59 minJul 9, 2026The Bulwark Podcast

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Trump's NATO Summit Logistics

Trump utilized two Air Force Ones for the NATO summit in Turkey: a new Qatari hand-me-down to showcase and the older blue one for safe travel home due to the war in neighboring Iran.

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FBI Resource Oversight

Kash Patel's management of taxpayer resources at the FBI has drawn scrutiny, prompting Senator Chuck Grassley to seek answers regarding the extent of the spending.

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Geopolitical Shifts in Iran and Ukraine

The discussion highlights military waste in Iran and notes that Ukraine has created panic in Russia, influencing Trump's perspective on which side to support.

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Government Records Database

Ben Wittes invites the public to test-run a new giant database of government records.

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Lawfare and Military Deployment

The episode touches on lawfare regarding the military's potential deployment at the polls.

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Why did Trump use two Air Force Ones for the NATO summit?

He used a new Qatari hand-me-down to show off and the older blue one to fly safely home due to the war in neighboring Iran.

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What is the concern regarding Kash Patel at the FBI?

His thievery of taxpayer resources has gotten so out of hand that even Chuck Grassley wants answers.

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How has Ukraine affected Russian panic?

Ukraine has created panic in Russia, which has Trump rethinking which side he wants to root for.

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What new resource is Ben Wittes inviting the public to test?

He invites the public to test-run his new giant database of government records.

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Ben Wittes

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This guide is based on the episode 'Ben Wittes: Talk About America in Decline' from The Bulwark Podcast, published on 2026-07-09.

  1. Publisher show notes

    Trump had to take two Air Force ones to the NATO summit in Turkey: his new bling Qatari hand-me-down that he wanted to show off and the old baby blue one which he had to use to fly safely home—given the war in neighboring Iran.

  2. Publisher show notes

    And at the FBI, Kash Patel’s thievery of taxpayer resources has gotten so out of hand, even Chuck Grassley wants answers.

  3. Publisher show notes

    Plus: Ukraine has created panic in Russia (which has Trump rethinking which side he wants to root for), Dems should be highlighting the massive military waste in Iran, and Ben invites the public to test-run his new giant database of government records.

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    Oh, and baby elephants are the best.

  5. Publisher show notes

    Ben Wittes joins Tim Miller.

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    Show notes:

  7. Publisher show notes

    • Lawfare on the military's potential deployment at the polls • Ben’s email: benjamin.wittes@lawfaremedia.org • Ben's Substack, "Dog Shirt Daily" • Get 20% off when you go to trustandwill.com/BULWARK

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