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Out of the Darkness: The Poynter Case

Andrea Canning and Josh Mankiewicz examine the fatal shooting of fire captain Bob Poynter and the subsequent investigation into his wife, Chacey.

The episode discusses the 2016 fatal shooting of Bob Poynter by a stranger on a Texas country road and the police investigation that questioned the genuineness of his wife Chacey's reaction.

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25 minJul 8, 2026Dateline NBC

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The Incident

In 2016, Chacey Poynter called 911 to report that her husband, Bob, a fire captain, had been fatally shot by a stranger on a Texas country road.

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Police Findings

When police arrived, they found Chacey covered in her husband's blood, but investigators quickly surmised that her emotion and story were far from genuine.

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Investigative Focus

The discussion covers the intensity of Chacey's reaction captured on police body cam and the role life insurance policies can play in murders.

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Who are the hosts of this episode?

Andrea Canning and Josh Mankiewicz.

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What is the title of the episode being discussed?

Out of the Darkness.

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What exclusive content is shared in this podcast?

Josh Mankiewicz shares a podcast-exclusive clip from his interview with Bob's mother.

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  1. Publisher show notes

    Andrea Canning sits down with Josh Mankiewicz to discuss his episode, “Out of the Darkness.” In 2016, Chacey Poynter called 911 in hysterics to report that her husband, Bob, a fire captain, had been fatally shot by a stranger on a Texas country road.

  2. Publisher show notes

    When police arrived at the scene, they found a frantic Chacey covered in her husband’s blood.

  3. Publisher show notes

    Investigators quickly surmised that her emotion and her story were far from genuine.

  4. Publisher show notes

    Andrea and Josh discuss the intensity of Chacey’s reaction, captured on police body cam, as well as the role of life insurance policies can play in murders.

  5. Publisher show notes

    Later, Josh shares a podcast-exclusive clip from his interview Bob’s mother.

  6. Publisher show notes

    Then, in a podcast first, Josh invites Andrea to partake in a special Talking Dateline challenge.

  7. Publisher show notes

    Have a question for Talking Dateline? DM your audio or video to @DatelineNBC on social or leave a voicemail at (212) 413-5252. Your question could be featured in an upcoming episode.

  8. Publisher show notes

    Listen to the full episode of “Out of the Darkness” here: https://swap.fm/l/outofthedarkness

  9. Publisher show notes

    Listen to Josh’s episode “Poison” here: https://swap.fm/l/poison

  10. Publisher show notes

    Watch Andrea fight off sweat bees here: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=324321878130485

  11. Publisher show notes

    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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